Sunday, 18 March 2012

GAQ BC 102 - 18th March 2012 (Sunday)

  • 6 Contenporary Teachers
    • Karma
    • Samsara
    • Moksha
  • Info on the 6 teachers are only concluded in the Upanishads period
  • Refer to DN 2 Samannaphala Sutta for more info
  • Makkali Ghosala, Purana Kassapa and Pakuda Kaccayana are all Ajivakas
  • Makkali Ghosala
    • Sudda Caste
    • Teach niyati
    • Determnism
    • Fatalist
    • Everything occurs by chance and fate
    • No cause and condition
    • Ahetukavada
    • No Kammic result
    • No human effort for spiritual practice
    • No reason to do so
    • Subscribes to "akiriyavada" -> non action
    • Humans and beings should live out their lives for 84 Maha Kalpas like a ball of thread that unwinds to in the end gain moksha
    • The Buddha criticises him as the worst of al teachers
    • Makkali Ghosala claima to have psychic powers
    • Was once with Nigantha Nataputta but split away because of fundamental doctrinal reasons
  • Purana Kassapa
    • Same as Makkali Ghosala
    • Sudda Caste
    • More of a ahetukavada
    • Amoralist
    • Nothing was said about his idea of liberation
  • Pakuda Kaccayana
    • Brahmin Caste
    • Atomist
    • In beings there are 7 elements
      • Pathavi (Earth)
      • Apo (Water)
      • Tejo (Heat)
      • Vayo (Wind)
      • Sukha
      • Dukkha
      • Life principle a.k.a. soul
    • Body is indestructable and is permanent
    • It is all that is a process that every being is going through
    • Nothing really happens
    • No cause and conditions
    • No need to do anything to gain liberation
  • Ajita Kesakambali
    • Buddha said that he is dirty and smelly if his hair is not washed clean
    • Believe that there are the 4 Maha Bhutas in a being
    • There is no existence of the after-life
    • Ucchedavadin
    • 10 Wrong Views
    • There is no need for spiritual development
    • Lead life to the fullest in sense indulgement
    • Materialist
  • Nigantha Nataputta
    • Extrene ahimsa
    • 4 fold restraint
    • Strainer, broom, mouth mask
    • Karma stains jiva / atta / atman
    • Not to perform bad karma
    • Because of bad past karma, thus perform extreme self mortification
    • He is a kiriyavadin and also an akiriyavadin
    • In buddhism, we stress on mental intention as Karma
    • In Jainism, Nigantha Nataputta stress on all intentional and unintentional bodity action as Karma
    • View the soul that reaches he heavens to enjoy the bliss as nirvana
  • Sanjaya Belathaputta
    • Intellectual Teacher or an Idiotic Fool
    • Sariputta and Moggallana were once his students
    • No commitment to any statement put to him
    • Skeptic
    • We may infer self-indulgence
  • Al teachers are akiriyavadins except Nigantha Nataputta and Sanjaya Belathaputta

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